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Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:00 pm
by CurvyHat
Hello,

I'm doing a school project on the Blue Bottle Experiment, and I was looking for some equations. I found a nice thread about it on this forum, but all the resources linked in it are inaccessible right now. Moreover, all of the studies I'm seeing online from the Royal Society of Chemistry and others are vague and have no concrete reaction equations. I was wondering where I can find some resources that are specific and contain equations for the reactions.

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:22 pm
by ChenBeier

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:00 pm
by CurvyHat
Yes, I used google, but all of the studies I found online were vague and didn't contain concrete chemical equations. What I'm looking for is something along the lines of the resources referenced in this thread: chemicalforum.webqc org/viewtopic.php?t=4457

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:09 pm
by ChenBeier

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:40 pm
by CurvyHat
Yes, I did. Sorry, I guess we had different search results show up, because this is what showed up on my screen:
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. Thank you!

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:01 pm
by ChenBeier
Of course you have click the links to go deeper .

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:57 pm
by CurvyHat
I'm still slightly confused. The first link says that glucose is oxidized, but its oxidation number goes from 0 to -1. Wouldn't that make it reduced?

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:17 pm
by ChenBeier
I can not find what you talking about.
Which link you refer to,

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:49 am
by CurvyHat
The German link. It seems as though the charge on glucose goes from neutral to -1. Wouldn't that make the glucose reduced?

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:05 am
by ChenBeier
The Glucose is a aldehyd this will oxidised to gluconate in alcaline condition.

R-CHO + 3 OH- => R-COO- + 2 H2O + 2e-

Oxidation C in Aldehyde + 1 to +3 in gluconate

In the link the equation is not correct because they use OH- on reactant side and H+ (H3O+) on product side.

R-CHO + OH- => R-COO- + 2 H3O+ + 2e-

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:39 pm
by CurvyHat
Is there a source that gives the equation R-CHO + 3 OH- => R-COO- + 2 H2O + 2e- besides the earlier thread I linked? I would prefer not to cite a forum thread.

Re: Resources on the Blue Bottle Experiment

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:28 pm
by ChenBeier