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Clinoptilolite (Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:05 am
by Henri
Hello,

Can someone give me the simplified chemical formula and molar mass of Clinoptilolite.
I tested the formulas below on webqc but I got no answer

(Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

(Na,K,Ca)2–3Al3 (Al,Si)2 Si13 O36•12H2O

Formula found on wikipedia

Thanks in advance

Re: Clinoptilolite (Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:52 am
by Benzene
Hello Henri!

The molecular formula of clinoptilolite is H6AlCaKNaO3Si and the molecular weight is 211.2789 g/mol.
You can see the Chemical Data in the screenshot below:

Image The source is trustworthy.

Krgds,
Benzene

Re: Clinoptilolite (Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:09 pm
by Henri
Hello,
Thanks for your answer but you give me the molecular formula of

Clinoptilolite ((K0-1Na0-1Ca0-0.5)6(Al6Si30O72).20H2O)

and I am looking for the molecular formula of

Clinoptilolite Na,K,Ca)2–3Al3 (Al,Si)2 Si13 O36•12H2O

Which seems different to me but I could be wrong because I am not a chemist.

Can you confirm that these two molecular formulas are identical
Thanks
(translation with google translate)

Re: Clinoptilolite (Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:03 pm
by ChenBeier
It is not possible, because Na,K,Ca 2-3 and Al3, (Al,Si)2 can differ in the formula.you have to know the exactly molecule. Na, K, Ca ,Al and Si are exchangable.

Given value for calcium compound

http://webmineral.com/data/Clinoptilolite-Ca.shtml

Re: Clinoptilolite (Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:37 pm
by michaeljordan
The matter is clear and clarified. Na,K,Ca 2-3 and Al3, (Al,Si)2 are definitely different in formula. We need to learn more about these substances if we want to prepare anything.
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Re: Clinoptilolite (Na,K,Ca) 2‐3 Al 3 (Al,Si) 2 Si 13 O 36 ∙12H 2 O

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:00 pm
by bevis0405
These kinds of notations are typical in geochemistry, mineralogy, and solid-state chemistry, especially when discussing substitution within a mineral lattice.