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E1 or E2
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:32 am
by Zayan
I had this question
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I did it by E
2 mechanism since it's tbuoh (bulky base) and made the hoffman product so option A.
But the solution manual did it by E
1 and did rearrangement to get option C.
What is the correct mechanism of this reaction and hence the correct major product?
Re: E1 or E2
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:38 am
by ChenBeier
I would say some percentage b and also c.
The iodine will be eliminated. A positive charge will remain on this carbon. But this is instable, a H hydrogen from next C-atom with methylgroup will jump in and the charge will go to the next or over the next C- atom, because the methyl or ethylgroups stabilise the carbenium. One of them will loose a hydrogen and the double bond will be formed.
Re: E1 or E2
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:42 am
by Zayan
But why did you do the E1 mechanism. It's tert butyl alcohol(bulky base) shouldn't it do the hoffman E2 elimination making option A?
Re: E1 or E2
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:00 am
by ChenBeier
It's tert butyl alcohol. It's only solvent not a base. We don't talking about potassium tert butylate. The Elimination is only done by heat as also written.
Re: E1 or E2
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:37 am
by Zayan
Can you please list a strong bases and weak bases so that I can differentiate between E1 and E2 I often get stuck is there a way to know what to prefer
Re: E1 or E2
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:12 am
by ChenBeier
Strong, alcoholates R-O- Me+, Hydroxide MeOH, Me(OH)2 Me = Alcali- and earth alcali metall
weak Ammonia, alkylamines, Arylamines , water , Alcohol,
A strong base is a base that is 100% ionized in solution. If it is less than 100% ionized in solution, it is a weak base.
Check list of pKb values