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Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:09 am
by Nimmull
Yes in russia. If i have russian passport with a mutant chiken(two head).

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:09 am
by Nimmull
What you think about sulfuric angidride? This substance is not conducting current because moleculas create dimers like a HF. May be it possible soluble some substance in sulfuric angidride to enchance it's conductivity?

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:54 am
by ChenBeier
You mean SO3? Sulfur trioxide, Sulfuric anhydride ?
Probably yes. Normal sulfate will convert to disulfate, trisulfate,etc.

SO4 2- + SO3 => S2O7 2-
S2O7 2- + SO3 => S3O10 2-
And so one gets ( SO4 * n SO3) 2- , this should be conductive

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:34 pm
by Nimmull
Yes sulfuric anhydride is a SO3. May be sulfate will not soluble in SO3 but a bit of waterless sulfuric acid will soluble. It's a nice idea hyperoleum a bit of H2SO4 solubled in SO3.

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:42 pm
by Nimmull
do you go online when it’s night, are you in America?
Let's continue our discussion.
Let's imagine that we have an electrolyzer, in the cathode space [emim]CH3SO3 it is followed by an intermediate space with sulfuric acid, it is separated by a porous partition from the cathode space. then comes the anode space, it contains SO3 * nH2SO4, it is also separated by a porous partition from the intermediate space. We will dissolve the sulfate in the electrolyte of the cathode space and begin electrolysis.
what do we get at the anode SO3 + O or (S2O8)2-?

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:03 pm
by Nimmull
Intermediate space is used for protect cathode electrolyte from sulfuric anhydride. Because sulfuric angidride will kill any organical compounds.

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:05 pm
by ChenBeier
No I am in Europe.

I have no idea what products you get in your device.
Maybe you have to do tests and experiments.
One concern is the water free sulfuric acid. It is very hygroscopic and will absorb water from the humidity in the air.

Re: Condition of disharge sulfat anions on anode

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:20 pm
by Nimmull
In russian internet i not found books about this processes. Experiment will show the truth.