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Help with reaction between MEA and phosphorus acid

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:04 pm
by hoangnga0896
I have done an experiment with 2 substances monoethanolamine (MEA) and phosphorus acid (H3PO3) but I do not know exact products of this reaction. Could anyone give an idea about this problem?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:32 am
by ChenBeier
Itis a normal neutralisation.

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 HOCH2CH2NH2 + H3PO3 => [HOCH2CH2NH3]2HPO3 

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:57 am
by hoangnga0896
Actually, MEA is taken into a mixture of CuSO4 and H3PO3. I saw a white cloud after reaction. I wonder if it is CO2 or NOx smoke...

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:02 am
by ChenBeier
The white cloud is the ammoniumsalt nebula.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:05 am
by hoangnga0896
You mean [HOCH2CH2NH3]2HPO3 is in nebular form?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:07 am
by ChenBeier
Correct. The same if you use ammonia gas and HCl gas.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:10 am
by hoangnga0896
So there is no amoniumsalt in the solution?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:12 am
by ChenBeier
Its in the solution as well. The cloud appers because it gets hot during neutralisation.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:17 am
by hoangnga0896
Could you send me documentaries related to this reaction via my email: hoangnga.0896@gmail.com please. I need to prove the equation to my boss.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:44 am
by ChenBeier
This is basic chemistry. Amines react with acids. There is nothing to approve. Look in a chemist book.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:46 am
by hoangnga0896
Okay. I got it. Thank you very much.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:58 pm
by hoangnga0896
I've been looking for the name of the product you did type but there was no result. Are there any other reactions?

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:59 pm
by hoangnga0896
There is only reaction between MEA and phosphoric acid (H3PO4) either.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:32 am
by ChenBeier
Do we talk about phosphoric acid

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H3PO4
or phosphorous acid

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H3PO3
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The product is Bis(Hydroxyethyl)-ammoniumphosphite

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:35 am
by hoangnga0896
MEA + H3PO3