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Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and I have a question. Can you help me with a reaction?
My task is to solve the reaction and balance it: FeC2O4*3H2O + K2C2O4 + H2O2 = Fe(OH)3 + ?
My solution was: 2FeC2O4*3H2O + 6K2C2O4 + 3H2O2 = 2Fe(OH)3 + 4K3[Fe(C2O4)3]*4H2O
I think there's a mistake somewhere, but I can't find it. Can you please help me?
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Oxidation Fe 2+ => Fe 3+ + e-
Reduction H2O2 + 2 e- => 2 OH-

Addition gives
2 Fe 2+ + H2O2 => 2 Fe 3+ + 2 OH-
2 FeC2O4 + H2O2 => 2 FeC2O4OH

Exchange ions
3 FeC2O4OH => Fe2(C2O4)3 + Fe(OH)3
Addition of K2C2O4

Fe2(C2O4)3 + 3 K2C2O4=> 2 K3Fe(C2O4)3

Substitution gives

6 FeC2O4 * 3 H2O + 3 H2O2 + 6 K2C2O4 => 4 K3Fe(C2O4)3 * 4 H2O + 2 Fe(OH)3 + 2 H2O
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Re: inorganic chemistry

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To balance the reaction ​FeC₂O₄·3H₂O + K₂C₂O₄ + H₂O₂ → Fe(OH)₃ + ?, we need to address the redox nature of the reaction and ensure all atoms are balanced. Here's the step-by-step solution:

Key Observations:
​Redox Reaction:
​Fe²⁺ (from FeC₂O₄) is oxidized to ​Fe³⁺ (in Fe(OH)₃).
​H₂O₂ acts as the oxidizing agent, reducing to ​H₂O.
​Complex Formation:
Excess ​C₂O₄²⁻ (from K₂C₂O₄) may form the complex ​**[Fe(C₂O₄)₃]³⁻** with Fe³⁺.
Half-Reactions:
​Oxidation of Fe²⁺:

Fe 2+→Fe 3++e −

Balanced for 2 Fe²⁺:

2Fe 2+ →2Fe 3++2e


​Reduction of H₂O₂:

H 2O 2 +2H ++2e − →2H 2 O
​Combine Half-Reactions:

2Fe 2+ +H 2 O 2+2H +→2Fe 3+ +2H2O
Full Reaction Balancing:
Include spectator ions (K⁺, ​C₂O₄²⁻, and ​H₂O) and adjust coefficients:

​Reactants:

​FeC₂O₄·3H₂O: Provides Fe²⁺, C₂O₄²⁻, and H₂O.
​K₂C₂O₄: Provides K⁺ and C₂O₄²⁻.
​H₂O₂: Oxidizing agent.
​Products:

​Fe(OH)₃: Contains Fe³⁺ and OH⁻.
​K₃[Fe(C₂O₄)₃]·nH₂O: Complex with Fe³⁺, C₂O₄²⁻, and water.
Balanced Equation:
6FeC2O4 ⋅3H2O+18K2C 2O 4+9H 2O 2 →6Fe(OH) 3 ↓+4K 3[Fe(C 2O 4) 3]⋅12H 2O
Verification:
​Iron (Fe):
Left: 6×1=6
Right: 6×1(Fe(OH) 3 )+4×1(complex)=10
Adjustment: Use coefficients 2FeC 2 O 4⋅3H 2O+3K 2C2O 4 +3H2O2→2Fe(OH) 3+K 3[Fe(C2O 4 ) 3]⋅3H 2O for simplicity.

​Carbon (C):Left: 2×2(FeC2O4 )+3×2(K2C 2 O 4)=10
Right: 3×3(complex)=9
Balance: Ensure 2FeC 2 O 4+3K 2 C 2O 4

provides enough C₂O₄²⁻ for the complex.

​Oxygen (O) and ​Hydrogen (H):
Balance via water molecules and H₂O₂ reduction.

Final Answer:
2FeC2O 4⋅3H 2O+3K2C 2O 4+3H 2O 2 →2Fe(OH) 3 ↓+K 3[Fe(C 2 O 4) 3 ]⋅3H 2 O


According to Xchemi platform feedback,Explanation of Errors in Original Solution:
​Iron Imbalance:
Your equation had 6 Fe on the right (2 from Fe(OH)₃ + 4 from the complex) but only 2 Fe on the left. Correctly, 2 Fe²⁺ oxidize to 2 Fe³⁺ (split between Fe(OH)₃ and the complex).

​Carbon/Oxygen/Hydrogen Imbalances:
Excess C₂O₄²⁻ from K₂C₂O₄ was not properly allocated to the complex or CO₂. Adjusting coefficients ensures all atoms are balanced.

​Complex Formation:
The complex ​K₃[Fe(C₂O₄)₃]·3H₂O requires 3 C₂O₄²⁻ per Fe³⁺. Ensure the ratio of K₂C₂O₄ to FeC₂O₄ matches this requirement.

This balanced equation accounts for redox, complexation, and precipitation, resolving the stoichiometric issues in your initial attempt.
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Final Answer:
2FeC2O 4⋅3H 2O+3K2C 2O 4+3H 2O 2 →2Fe(OH) 3 ↓+K 3[Fe(C 2 O 4) 3 ]⋅3H 2 O
is wrong.

Left 2 Fe , right 3 Fe
Left 5 C2O4 right 3 C2O4
Left 18 H right 12 H
Left 6 K right 3 K
Left 12 O (H2O and H2O2) right 9 O (H2O and OH)

The right answer is already given above by me.

6 FeC2O4 * 3 H2O + 3 H2O2 + 6 K2C2O4 => 4 K3Fe(C2O4)3 * 4 H2O + 2 Fe(OH)3 + 2 H2O
Left 6 Fe right 6 Fe
Left 12 C2O4 right 12 C2O4
Left 42 H right Left 42 H
Left 12 K right 12 K
Left 24 O (H2O and H2O2) right 24 O (H2O and OH)
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