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E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:17 am
by Dhamnekar Winod
It is sometimes necessary to compute E° for a given half reaction from other half reaction of known E°.

For example, the standard electrode potential for the oxidation of Titanium metal to Ti³⁺ can be obtained from the following half reaction:
Ti²⁺ + 2 e⁻ ⇌ Ti⁰ E° = -1.63 Volts ①

Ti³⁺ + e⁻ ⇌ Ti²⁺ E° = -0.37 Volts ②


Calculate E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

My answer: ② is more spontaneous reaction than ①.

Reduction: Ti³⁺ + e⁻ ⇌ Ti²⁺ E° = -0.37 Volts ;

Oxidation: Ti²⁺ + 2 e⁻ ⇌ Ti⁰ E° = -1.63 Volts


Hence, \( E^\circ_{rx} = E^\circ_{red} - E^\circ_{ox} = -0.37 V - (-1.63 V) = + 1.26 V \)

My answer matches with author's answer.

But, Is my logic in answering this question correct?

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:02 am
by ChenBeier
It can not match, because its negativ , its - 1,26 V

https://www.periodensystem-online.de/in ... 2&id=redox

You have to change both voltages.

E = -0,163 V -(-0,37V) = -1,26 V

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:57 am
by Dhamnekar Winod
Author has given the following answer:
E⁰ for Ti.png
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is there typographical error in the above answer?

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:02 am
by Dhamnekar Winod
I think your answer is correct. There is a typographical error in the given answer.

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:14 am
by ChenBeier
Oxidation and Reduction is mixed up. Also for both voltages the same reaction is used. There is no reaction Ti 2+ to Ti 3 +.

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:18 am
by Dhamnekar Winod
Why did you choose ① as reduction half reaction and ② as oxidation half reaction?

Would you explain that?

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:49 am
by Dhamnekar Winod
Author's given answer is wrong.The correct answer is + 1.21 volts using the formula for ∆G°= -nFE°

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:31 am
by ChenBeier
No also in this case you lost one minus. In tables this gives - 1.21 V

https://www.periodensystem-online.de/in ... 2&id=redox

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:18 am
by Dhamnekar Winod
The table in your link says Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻ ⇌ Ti⁰ E° = -1.208 V

Reverse it for oxidation of Titanium metal Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻ E° = +1.208 V

Re: E° for Ti⁰ ⇌ Ti³⁺ + 3 e⁻

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:54 pm
by ChenBeier
The redox potential of a half reaction is measured to the hydrogen electrode.
So it doesn't matter if you look Ti 3+ + 3 e- => Ti or Ti => Ti 3+ + 3 e- . The voltage of 2 H+ +2 e- => H2 or H2 => 2 H+ +2 e- is 0 V
and the difference between both reaction is - 1,26 V.

Also in your postings it's given with the ⇌ sign. Also back and forward is the same regarding the potential.