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Example of pKa and pH problem.

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Example pKa and pH Problem
Find [H⁺] for a solution of 0.225 M NaNO2 and 1.0 M HNO2. The Ka value (from a table) of HNO2 is 5.6 e-4. (In table, It is 7.4e-4)

pKa = −log Ka = −log(7.4e−4) = 3.14

pH = pka + log ([A⁻]/[HA])

pH = pKa + log([NO2-]/[HNO2])

pH = 3.14 + log(1/0.225)

pH = 3.14 + 0.648 = 3.788

\([H^+] = 10^{-pH}= 10^{−3.788} = 1.6×10^{−4}\)

Are the above computation correct?https://www.thoughtco.com/the-ph-and-pk ... ng%20acid.
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Should be ok
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In the question, the concentration of NaNO2 is 0.225 M and that of HNO2 is 1.0 M.

But in the handerson-Hasselbalch equation, concentration of HNO2 is 0.225 and of NO2⁻ , it is 1.0 M. How is that?

I think the reaction is NaNO2 + HNO2 → NaOH + NO + NO2
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No HNO2 is the acid and NaNO2 is a salt. There is no reaction together. You can use the acid and add some NaOH to neutralize to get the salt.
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I don't understand how does Log(NO2⁻ / HNO2) = Log(1/0.225 )?

Henderson- Hasselbalch equation states pH= pKa + log([conjugate Base ]/[ weak acid])

In this case, NO2⁻ ia a conjugate base and its concentration is unknown. How to find out that? The concentration of HNO2 is 1.0 M. But in ths solution it is 0.225 M. How is that?
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Something has to be given pH either a concentration. Otherwise it can not work. You have a acid given 1 M and some salt given 0.225 M then you can calculate the pH.
Or pH is given and concentration of the salt or acid can be calculated.
But I see you mixed concentrations up in the beginning.
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Whatever is given on https://www.thoughtco.com/the-ph-and-pk ... ng%20acid. , I reproduced here.

Consider the reaction HNO2 + NaOH → NaNO2 + H2O , Now we have 1.0 M of HNO2 and 0.225 M of NO2⁻.

So, pH= 3.13 + log (0.225/1) = 3.13 -0.648 = 2.48 . → [H⁺] = 10^-2.48 =3.31e-3.

Why is this computation wrong?
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This is correct but in the beginning you mixed up the concentrations.
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